[Hardware] "success"
Jim C. Nasby
decibel at distributed.net
Wed Oct 18 18:59:50 EDT 2006
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:54:02PM -0400, Martin Klingensmith wrote:
> Well, how is the data verified and sent back? (conceptually, I'm not
> looking for details)
> There could always be some sort of software layer on a host computer
> with any number of client FPGAs attached.
There's a residual that's computed as part of the normal clients, and
the server checks that.
The issue with having a host machine do the encryption is that the
decrypted data is then available for anyone to muck with.
> By the way, I made a simple top module and tried to synthesize the code
> today. It started to work but I tried to re-run the synthesis and
> Synplify Pro just sat there for hours running 100%. I'm not sure what's
> going on with that - maybe it just needs a reboot. I don't know how much
> space it will take up in an FPGA. It's a 155 stage 32 bit pipeline which
> seems large by my standards. It is for this reason that I don't know
> which device it will fit in (I use Xilinx S3-200 right now) or how fast
> it will run.
>
> I will give out the code once I figure out if there are any reasons not
> to do so. It's basically the code I posted to this list 10 months ago
> converted to Verilog and printed out with tac. It's also part of my
> graduate thesis.
>
> IMO the reward for breaking 72 bit encryption should be $100k
> --
> Martin K
>
>
> John L. Bass wrote:
> > Out of curiosity... is there any way to safely embed our encrypt/decrypt
> > functions in that code without it becomming public? Otherwise I'm not
> > sure how we'd be able to plug one of these in to the network...
> >
> > The answer is still effectively no. There would have to be a standard
> > hardware configuration to freeze it. Or at least a fixed set of cores
> > for every usable FPGA, which at least in the beginning would require
> > releasing the crypto to a half dozen or better FPGA developers (most
> > of the FPGA RC5 user community).
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:55:32PM -0600, Olivier Meyer wrote:
> > > >I just thought I'd let you guys know since this seems to be a 4 msgs a
> > > >year mailing list :-)
> >
> > Which is why this list is dead. The proprietary interests block open
> > access.
> >
> > John
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