[PROXYPER] need a non-TCP/IP personal proxy

[Messenger, Mark]

Umm... no :)

Unless my MTA stripped a <sarc> tag in there, you're full of Microsoft
Products :P

The 'Net predates TCP/IP by 20 years, not the other way around.

-----Original Message-----
From: waldo kitty [mailto:wkitty42 at alltel.net]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:21 PM
To: proxyper at lists.distributed.net
Subject: Re: [PROXYPER] need a non-TCP/IP personal proxy



> "Messenger, Mark" wrote:
> 
> According to  http://www.davesite.com/webstation/net-history2.shtml
> TCP/IP replaced NCP on the net in 1983, roughly 20 years ago :)

yup... its as i said <<GG>>

> The original ARPANet (the Internet's early name) was created circa
> 1968 wayyyyyy before TCP was even thought up.
> 
> A quick google search for "Internet history TCP/IP" should yield you a
> fair bit of background reading.
> 
> Hope this helps ya.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: waldo kitty [mailto:wkitty42 at alltel.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: proxyper at lists.distributed.net
> Subject: Re: [PROXYPER] need a non-TCP/IP personal proxy
> 
> TCP/IP is not just internet oriented... TCP/IP has been used for a lot
> 
> of networking stuff long before the internet came about... remember,
> the
> internet (as we know it today) has only been around for a decade or
> so... anyway, TCP/IP is not limited just to the internet and one would
> 
> be foolish to restrict one's self from using it whenever they can...
> look around you... look at the other networks and their protocols...
> where are they today? in many cases, they are defunct and obsolete if
> they are even still being used at all...
> 
> Patcat88 wrote:
> >
> > I can easily make a NAT using Linux or my copy of Advanced Server. A
> 
> > DHCP server will work. I just think that TCP/IP is a internet thing
> > and should stay exactly that, a Internet thing.
> >
> > "Messenger, Mark" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your first concern would be addressed by NAT-ing your computers
> > > behind your DSL computer/router.  Private IP ranges are considered
> 
> > > non-routable, and thusly, not attackable from the outside world
> > > (generally speaking. Yes, I know there are ways to fool some
> > > routers/NAT daemons into faking a session to an internal host.
> This
> > > is a rare case, as I understand it).
> > >
> > > As far as Dnet goes, the lack of incoming connections is not a
> > > problem.  I have verified that the Dnet client (and the Dnetd
> > > personal proxy) will work just fine on NAT-ed IP addresses.  I run
> 
> > > this at home on my 5-odd working machines.
> > >
> > > Does this answer your question?  If not, let me know :)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Patcat88 [mailto:patcat88 at SNET.Net]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 6:55 PM
> > > To: proxyper at lists.distributed.net
> > > Subject: Re: [PROXYPER] need a non-TCP/IP personal proxy
> > >
> > > I don't want people to be able to send packets directly to a
> > > unprotected
> > > windows 3.11 WFW system. Yes I know about NAT but I'm afraid that
> > > NAT
> > > won't map the DATA back to the originating computer properly. Also
> 
> > > NAT
> > > doesn't allow incoming connections which I think will be a
> problem.
> > >
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