[rc5] Re: Supercomputers & Bovine, Q&A
murray at cdrom.com
Mon Aug 4 22:39:12 EDT 1997
This sounds like an argument from 20 years ago ;) RISC vs CISC has
long been settled, the winner? neither (a hybrid)! RISC chips often
are much faster simply because the instruction set is smaller, so that
a executing more instructions per second than a CISC chip is
meaningless. The RC5 math exemplifies that better than anything else.
I always thought PPC chips were hybid as opposed to true RISC like
SPARCS and Alphas. Can anyone with more PPC knowledge shed some light
on this for me?
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Kevyn Shortell wrote:
% Well see, what your all forgetting, is that the X86's also have hardware
% rotate..... so of course you'd see it outperforming alpha's, which don't
% However, you don't see X86 with hardware rotate, out performing PPC with
% hardware rotate, so saying that, RISC is faster than CISC, is not in itself
% a wrong thing to say.
% In this case, it's quite obvious, that it is =)
% At 4:29 PM -0700 8/4/97, Murray Stokely wrote:
% >% Naanaanaano, you take the whole thing to easy. You can't just claim that
% >% is faster then cisc, you can only say that it is different (if you consider
% >% a problem where the cisc'er can play their card of complex instructions they
% >% are of course in advantage). But speaking about the performance of the 604e:
% >% The PowerPC-architecture includes a hardware rotate-instruction
% >("rlwimi" and
% >% "rlwinm"; the mnemonics sound stupid but these instructions are very
% >% and they don't need to "shift left","shift right" and "or" as other risc-
% >% machines.
% >% I think it has been mentioned very often in this mailing list, that x86,
% >% PC and 68K are good architectures for RC5-encryption because they
% >support hard-
% >% ware rotates ...
% >It probably would have been easier to point out that his entire
% >argument that RISC is better was pointless especially in this
% >context. CISC machines such as x86's are outperforming RISC machines
% >such as alphas that run at over twice the clockspeed.
% >Murray Stokely
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