[rc5] Unsolicited email

Brian Greul (Exch) bbraf08 at exch-imc.b-r.com
Wed Oct 8 16:15:14 EDT 1997


Why don't you turn on Authentication on your mail server?
There is a way (at a performance cost) to log all connecitons.


>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Brian B. Burton [SMTP:brian at burtons.com]
>Sent:	Wednesday, October 08, 1997 4:04 PM
>To:	rc5 at llamas.net
>Subject:	Re: [rc5] Unsolicited email 
>
>Aren't you clever! 
>Did it ever occure to you that they use fake return mail addresses, so all
>you do is inconvenience Internet system admins with your junk mail caught in
>the system?  So what's the big point - if you inconvienience their ISP, they
>will kick the spammer off, right? WRONG. Most spammers "bounce" their email
>off of innocent third party mail machines, using fake return addresses to
>make it harder to track. 
>In my case, I run a mail server. Some idiot using UUnet is systematically
>using my mail server to bounce spam to AOL. this will cause AOL to ban me
>and all of the other legitimate users of my system from sending mail to
>existing friends and clients on AOL. 
>The idiot doing the spamming is using fake adress from hot mail to make them
>look bad. something like somebody@@hotmail.com. You'll notice the 2 "at"
>signs. This causes the spam reciepient who is now pissed to reply to the
>spammer, only the spammer doesn't exist (the hotmail address changes for
>every 15 pieces of email) and the double at signs cause the reply to be
>bounced to the mail server it came from (mine). The net result is that I got
>about 10 pieces of VERY nasty mail for something I or any of my legitimate
>users DIDN'T DO!
>I've since had to auto delete ALL outgoing mail to AOL, while I close the
>door in the spammers face. 
>So why don't I call UUnet and complain? I did. Their reply is that they will
>look into it. They probably have 250-300 dialup lines in Kansas City Mo, so
>the chance of them finding this guy???
>So the next time you get junk mail, please realize just how untraceable the
>person mailing it made themselves.
>
>The Great BrianB
>
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>----------
>From: "Eric Gindrup"<gindrup at okway.okstate.edu>
>To: <rc5 at llamas.net>
>Subject: Re[2]: [rc5] Unsolicited email 
>Date: Wed, 08 Oct 97 11:08:19 -0600
>
>
>     How about a distributed anti-spammer mailbomber?  Each element of the 
>     collective sends a copy of the offending spam and a copy of the 
>     *lengthy* US ... article to the offender.  Although no particular 
>     person can be singled out for having bombed the site...
>            -- Eric Gindrup ! gindrup at Okway.okstate.edu
>
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