[RC5] Screen Saver

Zorba the Hutt zorbathut at uswest.net
Thu Dec 9 21:35:01 EST 1999

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Losing the cute little bells and
whistles may boost keyrate a little, but it lowers participation
dramatically. There might be some stat-like stuff people can do by
monitoring the buffer files, but it will be quite limited, and we won't be
able to do anything like a screensaver (at least, not an interesting
screensaver - we'd be limited to "hasn't done a block. Nope, still hasn't
done a block. Still working on the same block. Still the same block. Next
block! . . . OK, still on this block.") Now there's no reason we need to
fill the current client with prettification code, but we should at least
have some way of talking to it from other programs.

Who would I talk to in order to volunteer to help code clients? I'm not a
code god (yet), but I might be able to help some, and this is important
enough to me that I'll spend a nice chunk of (previously) free time on it :)


----- Original Message -----
From: rjcorr <rjcorr at ozemail.com.au>
To: <rc5 at lists.distributed.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [RC5] Screen Saver

> Ladies/Gents
> This is my first (and probably only posting to this group...though I've
> d-net'ing for over 12-18 months)...but I must admit some dismay when, at
> behest of the server, I updated my d-net system to the latest '98 program
> about 1 week ago
> I agree with the content below.  I'm more than  happy to to let my
> run d-net in the background doing what ever the server feels is
> to the cause.  The quality of the programming (until this latest version)
> was good and not running d-net or similar was basically a waste of cycles
> which even if we (my net work) can't directly gain a benefit, at least
> one else can....
> The current version is harder to network configure (if its too hard I for
> one won't bother...sorry I just haven't the time) and it tends to hang (we
> use a lot of Norton stuff on our system) on a regular basis
> This latest version...yeesh!.... (sorry to the developers)...I've got 3 x
> P!! 233's networked through to a P100 server linked through to the
> until this last version I've been able to convince my owner that 'yeah its
> worth the effort' but now...I admit bells and whistles detract from pure
> productivity...but I've got nothing to argue with and little to prduce to
> justify costs etc (yes I know all the arguments about the costs or turning
> systems on/off etc) and whilst the argument of helping d-net and similar
> strong...without a little bit of eye candy...its just that littlle bit
> harder (which may result in a total loss of contribution)
> In the short...can anyone advise how/where to find the previous program
> which displayed log/stats etc?
> Warmest Regards to all
> Bob
> rjcorr at ozemail.com.au
> SETI is pretty but
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zypher <zypher at jknust.com>
> To: <rc5 at lists.distributed.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [RC5] Screen Saver
> > I rather like the fancy stuff *as an option*.
> >
> > There are some people....no...MANY people (ask SETI) who _will not run a
> > client_ unless it has fancy pantsy crap in it.
> >
> > I for one could care less about fluff, but it would be foolish to not
> > advantage of every last cpu cycle we can get. If it reduces their client
> > performance by 10%, ___we will still get the other 90%___ which in all
> > likelyhood we never would have seen if 'client only - screw the fluff'.
> >
> > You could argue that enough current 'non-fluffers' would change to
> > mode' and our overall keyrate would suffer. I bet ***every last one of
> > RC5 and CSC blocks done*** that this would not be the case. The flood of
> > 'commoners' would easily wipe away any speed reduction.
> >
> > ---inflamatory sarcasm follows---
> > I mean, if we have no fancy option, lets get rid of stats then. Those
> > wasted cpu cyles that could be used. In fact, why bother with client
> > configuration? The time they waste to type in their own email could be
> used
> > to do a million keys!!! (prob true even though I took it off the top of
> > head) Heck lets give it top priority while we're at it, like they really
> > need to play that game or type an email that fast anyway. Hell lets
> > out blocks from overclocked cpus, since they aren't 'pure enough'.
> > ---end sarcasm---
> >
> > I think this is very important to dnet and its future.
> >
> > We are shutting out a potentially huge segment of the world here. If
> people
> > will by imacs (hey, I airbrushed my case car-metal blue & black, but its
> > made of steel instead of plastic :) because they look 'cute'...then they
> > will run a 'cute' dnetc.exe likewise. Most people do not buy a Ferrari
> > because its the 'fastest car' (which is, BTW, a modified McLaren [sp?]
> > @240mph ~$1M street legal, if you discount those with rockets or jet
> engines
> > strapped on ;) but because it looks damn nice, is fast enough and a very
> big
> > status symbol. Someone with the right 'cheap car' could soup it up
> to
> > beat the ferrari for a lot less money. Theres an entire lifestyle based
> > that, e.g. musclecars :)
> >
> >
> > The easiest way to do this is to have a 'base client' that can accept
> thrid
> > party plugins, much like photoshop and winamp. Dnet could have links of
> > 'checked' plugins that are safe adn functional, and I'm sure if they
> started
> > a page and told everyone, they would have 100 submissions by the next
> >
> > For those of us running linux, a web server or busy fragging online, we
> > don't care. But we are the dedicated, the chosen few. The unwashed
> > cpu cycles are just as good as ours though.
> >
> > /heres to the fall of CSC and RC5
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> > Waiting sucks
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