[RC5] stats fixation
mouse at mousetrap.net
Tue Dec 21 12:47:56 EST 1999
> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:53:44 -0700
> From: Tom Cramer <drakino at usa.net>
> Subject: RE: [RC5] Global Stats
> Honestly I thought distributed.net was a coordinated effort to prove
> that brute force decryption is possible on certain encryption
I think that's a fair assessment.
[Note: before I start, let me say that I agree with most of what you
say. For the purposes of this post, however, I will adopt a
pragmatic stance that may appear to pick at these ideas. ]
>Friendly stats competition is always good, but when stats
> become more important then the original goal of the overall system,
> nothing useful will be accomplished.
Stats (and mooing sounds, etc) are "carrots" to attract cycle
donors. They are a means to an end. Sex, spice, hype. If you
have to entertain users to get their CPU cycles, then so be it. I do
it because I like the concept, but I don't assume that everyone else
is (or should be) a purist geek like me.
dnet, IMO, needs the unwashed masses for a project like this.
As does SETI at home.
> client on. I don't try to install d.net on systems to get my name
> higher on the list. I install d.net clients to bring d.net closer to
> it's goals.
Different trees that bear similar fruit, IMO.
> The people who insist on not running CSC for stats reasons are only
> hurting the people trying to prove something.
The people with something to prove may not be proving what they
think they're proving.
*surface proof: algorithms are brute-force crackable by distributed
*deep structure: only the pure-in-intention are worthy to
participate in such a project
>Maybe it's time for
> statbox ii to break down for a short time so people might realize what
> the project is really about.
Feel free to alienate donors of CPU horsepower, as long as that
alienation helps the project. I think it'd be counterproductive.
The ideal solution, of course, would be to start one's own
distributed project for the truly evolved; no stats, no recognition,
total anonymity, no reward.
And fewer users. I'd join up, so there'd at least be the two of us. :)
 to mutilate Geertz
Transatlantic History, University of Texas at Arlington
Instructor, Northlake Community College
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