[RC5] P4 Speed Question

Ferry van Steen td at salesint.com
Mon Jun 18 11:21:44 EDT 2001


I think it's fairy unfair to say that just linux people promote AMD. I know
shitloads of windows users who no longer want an AMD and use Intels as well
as I know loads of linux people who don't use anything but Intel.

regards

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Malayter" <rmalayter at bai.org>
To: <rc5 at lists.distributed.net>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: [RC5] P4 Speed Question


> >> Somewhat ironically, it's the Linux folks - who can recompile most of
> their
> >> software to their liking - that might find they actually like
performance
> >> (maybe not price) of the P4 right now.
>
> > I pity the foo' who can't recompile her OS (apologies to Mr. T :).  I
> don't
> >find it ironic at all, since one of the reasons for using a Free OS is
that
> >you can do anything you want with it, and aren't dependent on any company
> to
> >get around to doing stuff for you.  Could you explain what you meant
there?
>
> Well... haven been an admin/DBA/programmer for an exclusively NT
environment
> (well, one HP/UX box) for the last 5 years, I guess well I'm out of the
**IX
> scene. I suppose I was thinking - fondly, mind you - of what we outsiders
> think of as the "slashdot culture," that core of underdog-loving Linux
> diehards
> who loathe Microsoft first and Intel second. To me, it's somewhat ironic
> that
> they who promote love for AMD and hate of Intel's monopolistic tendencies
> can benefit most from Intel's new beast.
>
> >> Assuming, of course, that these Lunix
> >> folks have access to good P4-optimized compilers and script
> interpreters...
>
> > Oh, you mean this?
> >http://developer.intel.com/software/products/compilers/linuxbeta.htm
>
> It's a start, I guess. Not being a Linux guy, I didn't know about this
> offering
> from Intel. But from my Solaris days in college, I remember how compiler
> choice
> sparked minor holy wars amongst our C programmers, a sun vs. gcc battle
> waged in
> the Makefiles. Nobody wanted to handle all those compiler flag
differences;
> everyone
> swore that their compiler choice produced the tightest, fastest code. I
> would think
> Intel has to make their compiler fully gcc compatible to make any P4
> Linux/FreeBSD
> inroads. But maybe things have changed in this regard since I last used
two
> forward
> slashes to comment my code...
>
> -ryan-
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Cordes [mailto:peter at llama.nslug.ns.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:14 PM
> To: 'rc5 at lists.distributed.net'
> Subject: Re: [RC5] P4 Speed Question
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 05:30:30PM -0500, Ryan Malayter wrote:
> > www.news.com reports a forthcoming DDR chipset from Intel for the P4,
code
> > named "Brookdale," Expected "early next year."
> >
> > But as you say, so the f*ck what... P4 performance sucks with
P3-optimized
> <snip>
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