[RC5] OGR motivations/achievements in general

blitz blitz at macronet.net
Wed Oct 9 17:42:51 EDT 2002

Woah..you mean what we're running client wise is a waste of time?
The latest clients? Is there a "proper" one for Linux and Windoze available 
that IS ok to use?

I'd rather not have to revisit all the machines in my lan to change until 
we've got a keeper for a client.
Looks like Ive got to visit them now and shut them down, I don't think I 
want to have them running defective output that will be discarded anyway.

Is .473 ok?

At 13:45 10/9/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Because of the nature of the bug, if the ruler is truncated once, it
>will be truncated every time.  Unfortunately, this means we will be
>discarding essentially all 2nd pass work with existing clients.  (sigh -
>I hate giving bad news).
>Again, this is to the best of my knowledge - I am not a coder for OGR,
>and I don't know all the details, I am merely echoing what I understand
>from discussions on IRC.
>We have from time to time gone over the work received and updated the
>keymaster's maps for which workunits have not yet been received, in an
>effort to make the most of the work being handed out.  (No sense handing
>it out again if we already have one apparently valid result).  Like our
>other projects, the new-work-return rate has declined and the
>duplicate-work rate has increased the closer we get to the end, but
>there is still a significant percentage of work not yet received back
>for the first time.
>Bruce Wilson <bwilson at distributed.net>
>PGP KeyID: 5430B995, http://www.toomuchblue.com/
>Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day.
>Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
>| -----Original Message-----
>| From: owner-rc5 at lists.distributed.net
>| [mailto:owner-rc5 at lists.distributed.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Leigh
>| Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 01:34
>| To: rc5 at lists.distributed.net
>| Subject: Re: [RC5] OGR motivations/achievements in general
>| I understand the need to verify the current results with the new (as
>| yet unavailable) client, but it seems like you should already have
>| gotten thru all the stubs several times over by now.
>| Here is Dave Avery's .plan file from 2000:
>| :: 23-Sep-2000 04:14 (Saturday) ::
>|   OGR progress report:
>| As of 23:59 22-sept-2000 there were 2,264,082 unique OGR-25 stubs
>| returned,
>| out of 12,207,683, or 14.89% complete
>| As of 23:59 22-sept-2000 all but 7 unique OGR-24 stubs had
>| been returned
>| and about 49% had valid pass-2 returns
>| So over 2 years ago, OGR-24 was already half way thru the second pass
>| and OGR-25 was already at 15% up from 9% on Sept 11th. So how many
>| times have these stubs been checked over with the 'broken' client?
>| Seems like every stub would have been checked numerous times by now.
>| On Friday, October 4, 2002, at 09:16  AM, Bruce Wilson wrote:
>| > Because of the verification plan we are using, we do not
>| expect to have
>| > to discard work done with current buggy clients unless the
>| bug affected
>| > the results for a given stub.  Our original plan was to require two
>| > identical results for the same stub from different
>| participants.  Now
>| > we
>| > will be revising that to say that one of the results must also come
>| > from
>| > a "fixed" client.  If the buggy client gives the same results as the
>| > fixed client, the bug was not a factor.  If the buggy client gives a
>| > different result, then we wait for a confirmation from a different
>| > participant using the fixed client.
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