[RC5] just curious

Jason Hartzell jhartzell at arcataassoc.com
Tue Oct 22 12:29:00 EDT 2002


I've been a victim of SPEWS misdirection as well. Nothing like having all
corporate Internet Activity shutdown by your ISP (which will soon be
changed) due to a mis-identification on SPEWS.

I hate spam as much as anyone, but the treatment is worse than the disease.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas Maebe [mailto:jonas.maebe at rug.ac.be]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:49 AM
To: rc5 at lists.distributed.net
Subject: Re: [RC5] just curious



On dinsdag, okt 22, 2002, at 16:35 Europe/Brussels, Earl 
'<--Havoc--{{{' Stenlund wrote:

> I was just curious if the list was still working? I haven’t gotten any 
> mail on it in 3 days.

There wasn't any afaik. But it's quite possible that a lot of people 
won't get any mail from it anymore, because the mailing list server 
(216.76.43.190) is now in spews (http://www.spews.org/html/S1481.html), 
a spam blacklist. The reason is not that distributed.net has been 
spamming, but one of their "neighbours" called apexmarketinginc.com has 
been doing it and apparently their ISP refuses to take action against 
them (so they try to pressure the ISP to take action by including other 
IP-addresses that belong to them, hoping that other customers of this 
ISP will complain about the resulting reduced email connectivity).

Just a small note: spews itself does not block anyone or anything, but 
there are a lot of people that block all mail coming from servers whose 
ip-address is in spews, because they think that the reduction in spam 
outweighs the (known) collateral damage that is associated with it.


Jonas
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