[RC5] Help with justification of running Dnet at work

Earl Stenlund havoc at totalhavoc.net
Fri Mar 17 09:45:53 EST 2006


The computers in the lab he uses have 1GB of ram with P4 3.2s. All of our
labs have 512MB or ram or more. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Richter [mailto:glassman1 at neonshadow.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:39 AM
To: havoc at totalhavoc.net; D.net Discussion
Subject: Re: [RC5] Help with justification of running Dnet at work

Earl Stenlund wrote:

> 	I only know what my students and I experience and that is a delay in
> opening 	applications such as browser windows, powerpoint
> presentations, etc.  I read all the 	mumbo jumbo on the web site and I
> have actually had to power cycle a machine to get it 	back under my
> control.  I 'm not buying the science contribution either.   Why would you
> want to support something that is not really under your control?  We need
> all of the 	resources we can get and should not be squandering them on a
> research project that even 	the federal government would not support.
> I don't need to see your benchmarks since 	they are done under a
> laboratory environment and do not reflect what will happen under 
> actual situations.

Okay, so the computers need serious help. :oP I notice this problem with any
computer having a serious lack of RAM, as nearly every computer I met in
school had. I personally have run dnetc and perproxy in production
environments with no serious affects outside of the cpus running a little
warmer. My quad cpu web and db server didn't even notice the extra load, and
I have zero problems with load times or anything on my personal
workstation... which I don't use lightly - I routinely load up multiple
EVE-Online clients which abuse the tar out of video card, ram and cpu... and
have had no ill effects from dnetc.

> 	The statement below from the web site is unbelievable...do they
> really think we are that 	stupid....the only reason I go to look at
> the statistics is because I cannot launch a 	powerpoint presentation or a
> browser, etc!  It is NOT a question of a task running in the 	background;
> it is a question of STARTING a new task while dnet.exe clings to the 
> processor.

Where'd you pick up this, er, <blank>?? I woulda gone serious rounds with
him as a student just for the fun of it. :)

> Also, does anyone know what other Schools are running the project? A 
> list would be great. I know DePaul, Polytechnic of Namibia, University 
> of Toronto, University of Illinois, Education Network of Ontario

Wish I could. While I was a student in high school I arranged to have nearly
all computers in the comp tech department running dnetc with the approval of
the teacher... but that has been a while.

--Gerald Richter

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