[RC5] Help with justification of running Dnet at work

biggranger at direcway.com biggranger at direcway.com
Fri Mar 17 10:03:51 EST 2006


Instead of trying to justify running DNETC on all the computers and possibly run the risk of loosing the privilege of running it anywhere, I would just remove it from his lab computers and let everything quiet down a bit.

Darren Clark

Earl Stenlund wrote:

>The computers in the lab he uses have 1GB of ram with P4 3.2s. All of our
>labs have 512MB or ram or more. 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerald Richter [mailto:glassman1 at neonshadow.net] 
>Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:39 AM
>To: havoc at totalhavoc.net; D.net Discussion
>Subject: Re: [RC5] Help with justification of running Dnet at work
>
>Earl Stenlund wrote:
>
>>	I only know what my students and I experience and that is a delay in
>>opening 	applications such as browser windows, powerpoint
>>presentations, etc.  I read all the 	mumbo jumbo on the web site and I
>>have actually had to power cycle a machine to get it 	back under my
>>control.  I 'm not buying the science contribution either.   Why would you
>>want to support something that is not really under your control?  We need
>>all of the 	resources we can get and should not be squandering them on a
>>research project that even 	the federal government would not support.
>>I don't need to see your benchmarks since 	they are done under a
>>laboratory environment and do not reflect what will happen under 
>>actual situations.
>
>
>Okay, so the computers need serious help. :oP I notice this problem with any
>computer having a serious lack of RAM, as nearly every computer I met in
>school had. I personally have run dnetc and perproxy in production
>environments with no serious affects outside of the cpus running a little
>warmer. My quad cpu web and db server didn't even notice the extra load, and
>I have zero problems with load times or anything on my personal
>workstation... which I don't use lightly - I routinely load up multiple
>EVE-Online clients which abuse the tar out of video card, ram and cpu... and
>have had no ill effects from dnetc.
>
>>	The statement below from the web site is unbelievable...do they
>>really think we are that 	stupid....the only reason I go to look at
>>the statistics is because I cannot launch a 	powerpoint presentation or a
>>browser, etc!  It is NOT a question of a task running in the 	background;
>>it is a question of STARTING a new task while dnet.exe clings to the 
>>processor.
>
>
>Where'd you pick up this, er, <blank>?? I woulda gone serious rounds with
>him as a student just for the fun of it. :)
>
>>Also, does anyone know what other Schools are running the project? A 
>>list would be great. I know DePaul, Polytechnic of Namibia, University 
>>of Toronto, University of Illinois, Education Network of Ontario
>
>
>Wish I could. While I was a student in high school I arranged to have nearly
>all computers in the comp tech department running dnetc with the approval of
>the teacher... but that has been a while.
>
>--Gerald Richter
>
>
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